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\n\tThe last several weeks have been like few others in American broadcast journalism.<\/p>\n

At 60 Minutes<\/em>, the most popular TV news show of the era, Taylor Sheridan-level drama has set in.\u00a0Nine or ten million weekly viewers on the linear network alone, yet executive producer Tanya Simon was fired. Correspondents Cecilia Vega and Sharyn Alfonsi were fired. And just when it seemed like new EP Nick Bilton \u2014 a magazine and documentary journalist\u00a0brought in\u00a0by newish CBS News editor-in-chief Bari Weiss to replace Simon \u2014 might quiet the waters at an introductory staff meeting Monday,\u00a0he faced a major public undressing from correspondent Scott Pelley. (The word \u201cmurder\u201d \u2014 of the show \u2014 was invoked.) Two days later, Pelley was fired. That prompted a CBS News anchor to\u00a0pay tribute to him\u00a0on the air Wednesday, like a fallen solider.<\/p>\n

What to make of the chaos? What game are Weiss and Bilton playing? Was Pelley going for martyrdom or just angry? And what will the deep-dive newsmagazine look like when it comes back in the fall?\u00a0The Hollywood Reporter<\/em>\u00a0senior editors Alex Weprin and Steven Zeitchik came together to shed some light on the mega-murk.<\/p>\n

Steven Zeitchik<\/strong>: Just a quiet few days in David Ellison\u2019s kingdom, nothing to see here.<\/p>\n

Alex Weprin<\/strong>: It\u2019s really kind of crazy.<\/p>\n

SZ:<\/strong> Let\u2019s start with Bari\u2019s decision to bring in Bilton. It was certainly a surprise to those of us who know him as a print journalist from\u00a0The New York Times<\/em>\u00a0and\u00a0Vanity Fair<\/em>\u00a0\u2014 not a guy you think of as running a major broadcast-TV operation.<\/p>\n

AW:<\/strong> I think Bari wants to shake up the show, and she views being an outsider as an advantage. Especially if she wants to expand its digital presence. I get it in that sense. Still, it was a perplexing choice, if only because\u00a060 Minutes<\/em> is the most watched news program on television and doesn\u2019t really need fixing, at least on the TV front. This is a huge swing.<\/p>\n

SZ:<\/strong> And it\u2019s worth noting that the show does have four million subscribers on YouTube; it\u2019s not like 60 Minutes<\/em> is invisible on the Internet. But the digital transformation is the generous read. The less generous read is she wants to pivot the show away from liberal-minded journalism, maybe even away from Trump-accountability journalism, and she saw the Simon regime as making the administration too uncomfortable. Where do you fall?<\/p>\n

AW: <\/strong>You\u2019re right the outcome may be what the Trump administration would like, which is a weakened CBS News, given that morale so low. But I also think Bari is sincere when she says she wants to move the show into the future and turn it into television for the\u00a021st century. So while it\u2019s not obvious to me it\u2019s about politics, you can\u2019t ignore the elephant in the room.\u00a0<\/p>\n

SZ: <\/strong>And of course both things can be true \u2014 the goal is digital, the side benefit is less pushback from Trump. But I\u2019m not even sure it has to be about Trump\u2019s reaction. It could just be about Bari herself wanting more centrism, which was her whole mantra at The Free Press.\u00a0<\/p>\n

AW:<\/strong> Definitely possible too.<\/p>\n

SZ:<\/strong> Let\u2019s talk about Bilton. How has his first week (why does it seem like longer) gone in your view?<\/p>\n

AW:<\/strong> Anytime you\u2019re coming in after high-profile people like Tanya Simon have been let go you have to work to win over the staff. You need to have tact when you, say, let go of veterans like Cecilia Vega and Sharyn Alfonsi, as Bari did. And I\u2019m not sure Nick and Bari had that or were successful in persuading the staff that everything has been on the up -and-up.<\/p>\n

SZ:<\/strong> We\u2019ve both worked at enough media outlets to know how impossible the new-boss role is. So I have some sympathy for Bilton. On the other hand, you\u2019d think he would know what does and doesn\u2019t work in that role given his own decades under exactly those bosses.<\/p>\n

AW: <\/strong>I think he probably does but he\u2019s just not been on the management side before, at least not at this scale. And don\u2019t forget, the structure of\u00a060 Minutes<\/em>\u00a0is so different from the structure of a newspaper or magazine \u2014 just how they construct their story pitches or how each correspondent has a team of producers. You have to recognize what isn\u2019t the same and how much people are willing to play ball and adapt, and I\u2019m not sure Nick has done that yet. But as you said, it has only been a week. Or a year, I can\u2019t be sure.<\/p>\n

SZ:<\/strong> Let\u2019s also not forget who he\u2019s working with too.\u00a060 Minutes<\/em>\u00a0correspondents are very good, but they also know they\u2019re very good.<\/p>\n

AW:<\/strong> There\u2019s no shortage of people who work in TV news who are extremely self-confident. So definitely, but it\u2019s not unique to\u00a060 Minutes<\/em>. A lot of people in the industry think they\u2019re untouchable. That said,\u00a060 Minutes\u00a0<\/em>has always operated a little differently even for a TV news show. They\u2019re looked at differently within CBS because they\u2019re so successful; they hadn\u2019t been in the same offices as the rest of the news division for most of their history.<\/p>\n

SZ:<\/strong> On an island, you could say.<\/p>\n

AW:<\/strong> Absolutely.<\/p>\n

SZ:<\/strong> You know there\u2019s a cynical view that Bari and Bilton\u00a0wanted\u00a0<\/em>to provoke a reaction \u2014 that they want to blow up the show and so they just laid some dynamite for the staff to trip on.<\/p>\n

AW:<\/strong> If you really want to blow it up you could fire everybody right away. But bringing in Bilton \u2014 I think it\u2019s a sincere effort to redefine it. I think she wants to do that and he wants to do that. It\u2019s definitely true that they\u2019re coming with authority and saying anyone who doesn\u2019t like what we\u2019re doing is free to leave. But while some multi-millionaire correspondents can afford to do that, the staff \u2014 the producers and people who make the show run \u2014 need jobs. And Bari and Bilton need them. So if that was the approach then I think it\u2019s the wrong one.<\/p>\n

SZ:<\/strong> You have a lot of sources in that building. How alienated is that production staff right now \u2014 what are you hearing?<\/p>\n

AW:<\/strong> I think pretty demoralized. This is something they believed in for a long time and it seems like its being slowly being taken away. But again, a lot of them can\u2019t afford to walk out the door in protest, at least not until they have something else lined up.<\/p>\n

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\nSZ:<\/strong> It\u2019s not like CNN is hiring.<\/p>\n

AW:<\/strong> Journalism jobs are hard to come by these days.<\/p>\n

SZ: <\/strong>What about Pelley himself? What was his endgame with this wild meeting confrontation. Like did he know it would end badly and wanted to go down in a blaze of glory, JetBlue flight attendant style, or at least go down getting his message out? Or was it just anger that got away from him?<\/p>\n

AW:<\/strong> Without knowing what\u2019s in his head or heart I think he was genuinely angry. You could hear it in his voice. But he obviously planned to do this \u2014 I don\u2019t think it was spur of the moment, but I also don\u2019t think it was performative as Bilton said. It\u2019s another one of those \u201cmultiple things can be true\u201d situations \u2014 I think he knew exactly what he was doing and planned to say some version of what he did, like a kamikaze mission where he was willing to accept the cost for the benefit. I don\u2019t know if he thought about what would happen after.<\/p>\n

SZ:<\/strong> On the subject of benefit, he did make some pointed comments about being asked with recent stories to alter details in a story for Trump\u2019s benefit and also criticized Weiss for allowing subjects to reporter-shop, as we say, which is an allusion to an incident several weeks ago in which Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu allegedly helped choose his interviewer, non-60 Minutes<\/em> correspondent Major Garrett, though we should note there is no hard evidence of this. What did you make of those charges? Did they land?<\/p>\n

AW:<\/strong> It was a little mysterious. The second thing did seem to be Netanyahu but it\u2019s not clear what the first was. I\u2019d love to know the circumstances, I think the details could illuminate things here, it really depends on the specific asks.<\/p>\n

SZ:<\/strong> You do get the sense that Pelley\u2019s reaction Monday\u2019s meeting was the culmination of a very long series of frustrations, which is why Bilton may have been a little taken aback with Pelley\u2019s \u201cremarkable incivility and contempt,\u201d as he put it. Bilton was bearing the brunt of a list of Pelley grievances that long predated his hiring.<\/p>\n

AW:<\/strong> Totally. This was building up and the layoffs [of Simon and others] is just what sparked it.<\/p>\n

SZ:<\/strong> So what now? Bari and Bilton are disassembling\u00a060 Minutes\u00a0<\/em>but do they have a blueprint for building it back up? It is still a massively successful show. and Bilton does talk admiringly of the three \u201cmini-documentaries\u201d on every week.<\/p>\n

AW:<\/strong> I think they find a way not just to put the show on more digital platforms but to produce segments that have the look and feel of 60 Minutes<\/em>, though I think an early tell will be how hard-hitting they are. Jon Wertheim, who specializes in sports, is there and he could do more pieces. Norah O\u2019Donnell I suspect will do more. They will use other CBS News talent like Matt Gutman and Tony Dokoupil if they need to. And they\u2019ll make hires.<\/p>\n

SZ: <\/strong>Not traditional broadcast journalists though.<\/p>\n

AW:<\/strong> I think they will have some traditional broadcast journalists, but I have a hunch there may be some from the creator and podcast space too.<\/p>\n

SZ:<\/strong> Alex Cooper,\u00a060 Minutes\u00a0<\/em>correspondent.<\/p>\n

AW:<\/strong> It\u2019s not crazy.<\/p>\n

SZ:<\/strong> She\u2019s very good at what she does but does that lend itself to an investigative newsmagazine?<\/p>\n

AW:<\/strong> I can see putting her on more on digital platforms but also occasionally on the network.<\/p>\n

SZ:<\/strong> That wouldn\u2019t be disruptive to the legacy audience that tunes in?<\/p>\n

AW:<\/strong> Well there\u2019s a theory from other network TV executives \u2014 maybe it\u2019s a little bit of jealousy \u2014 that the lead-in from the NFL games helps so much on CBS you can put pretty much anything there and be guaranteed a big audience. So it may not be such a risk. But you could also see it more mixed in. They\u2019ve had this digital experiment before, as you and I have talked about, with their 60 in 6<\/em> program on Quibi that then went to Paramount+ when Quibi folded. It wasn\u2019t bad but it didn\u2019t really work because they had a whole separate set of correspondents, the way magazines in the early days of the Internet had print writers and Web writers and they never crossed. You can\u2019t really run things that way.<\/p>\n

SZ:<\/strong> And now that it will be more like every magazine, where people create for both.<\/p>\n

AW:<\/strong> Exactly.<\/p>\n

SZ:<\/strong> When you frame it that way it doesn\u2019t seem like as big a shift as Pelley makes it out to be. I mean, even the most august legacy print product has to play the digital game now; it can\u2019t stay above that fray. That doesn\u2019t mean the original is being \u201cmurdered.\u201d<\/p>\n

AW: <\/strong>I think it\u2019s a question of how they do it. If the show still has some of those deep investigations then bringing in creators to do \u2014 hopefully well-done and polished \u2014 softer pieces could be OK. If it\u2019s more of a takeover without any of the hard-hitting stuff then I think it\u2019s a different story. But I don\u2019t think it\u2019s a crazy idea to take digital talent and put it in the\u00a060 Minutes<\/em>\u00a0format and try to merge those two worlds.<\/p>\n

SZ:<\/strong> I am just trying to imagine what that would look like.<\/p>\n

AW:\u00a0<\/strong>60 Minutes<\/em>\u00a0does rigorous journalism and the senior producers have that experience, and you put it with the audience sensibilities of digital creators in ways that make sense. It\u2019s a bit of a weird marriage but I can see it working.<\/p>\n

SZ<\/strong>: Give me your prediction for how this will go \u2014 if you had to put money on Kalshi right now. What will\u00a060 Minutes<\/em>\u00a0look like in the fall? And what about in the fall of 2027?<\/p>\n

AW<\/strong>: If they can get the show back for the fall, and I worry that a staff exodus would hinder that \u2014 they\u2019ll still do a lot of the same stories maybe with some flashy hires. In the fall of 2027, I think you will see more of the other non-traditional types, doing the kind of thing that plays well online \u2014 still good, but softer. But I also think in the next year we\u2019re going to see at least a few very hard-hitting pieces.<\/p>\n

SZ:<\/strong> Focusing on Trump or?<\/p>\n

AW:<\/strong> I think the Trump administration. Bari and Bilton have something to prove.<\/p>\n

SZ:<\/strong> That should make for some interesting phone calls with Ellison. And what about viewers \u2014 will there be more or fewer for\u00a060 Minutes<\/em>\u00a0by the fall or 2027?<\/p>\n

AW:<\/strong> Probably about the same. This is a hard show to take down.\u00a0Though maybe there will be an audience revolt. Will be very intriguing to see.<\/p>\n

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