Apple TV‘s Emmy-nominated leading ladies came together on Sunday for a chat about their recognized performances and shows, in partnership with The Hollywood Reporter.

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THR x Apple TV’s Leading the Narrative: The Women of Apple TV event took over Spago Beverly Hills for a conversation among Margo’s Got Money Troubles stars Michelle Pfeiffer and Elle Fanning, Pluribus‘ Rhea Seehorn and Karolina Wydra, Shrinking actress Jessica Williams and Widow’s Bay scene-stealer Dale Dickey, moderated by Shrinking writer-producer Ashley Nicole Black.

Black kicked off the panel — in front of a room full of influencers and tastemakers — by emphasizing, “I can’t believe all of these performances happened in the same season; I remember being a young woman where you would get one really cool female character per season. To get all of these iconic performances in one is just like, my mind is blown.”

Margo’s Got Money Troubles, up for best comedy series along with lead and supporting noms for Fanning and Pfeiffer, centers on a college dropout who turns to OnlyFans to financially support herself and her new baby.  

Fanning celebrated how it’s “a show about people who are kind of easily judged from their choices from the outside world of their occupation or the way they dress or the trauma that they’re dealing with in their life, addiction issues. I was just so moved being on the set, of just the acceptance that we had for these characters and the sensitivity that we had, and the freedom to be just completely raw and to go there and to be messy.” She added that she particularly loves doing TV because it provides “eight hours, 10 hours to really like flesh out and dive into a character and the nuance of it.”

Pfeiffer — who plays Fanning’s mother, Shyanne, a former Hooters waitress with a bold sense of style and some eye-catching veneers — joked that despite her real-life role as “the wallflower,” “it was so fun to be able to live vicariously through her and to see the looks on the crew’s faces whenever Shyanne would show up to the set. They were just, ‘Oh God, now look what she’s wearing!’” The star also mused that after an experience like Margo’s Got Money Troubles, “I never want to star in another movie, I swear to God. I only want to do ensemble pieces. It’s so much more fun, I love it so much.”

Later in the conversation, Seehorn reacted to the feedback from some viewers that her character in Pluribus, one of only 13 people in the world immune to a virus that transformed the rest of humanity into a peaceful hive mind, is “unlikeable.”

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“I disagree; personally I would have taken eight more episodes to get up off the floor so I think she’s kind of doing well, really,” teased Seehorn, who is up for lead actress in a drama series. She also noted how Pluribus creator Vince Gilligan was never told Walter White was unlikeable when writing Breaking Bad, so “you’re defining palatable very specific to my gender in that conversation.” She emphasized, “Accessible is more important than likable.”

Seehorn and Wydra, a supporting actress nominee, spent much of the chat gushing over each other, with Wydra praising the Better Call Saul alum as working “harder than anyone I’ve ever met” and taking time to meet and work through scenes with each member of the cast throughout production.

For her part, Williams, a supporting actress nominee for Shrinking‘s third season, explained that “especially as a 6-foot-tall Black actress, you’re hungry. We just need more complicated parts, we just need more opportunities.” She praised creator Bill Lawrence for allowing her to have input in her character’s storylines, as “for better or for worse, the white dudes at the top are kind of making the decisions about what performances make it. We need allies, and that was one of those where being on a Bill Lawrence show is really cool for that reason.”

Dickey, a supporting actress nominee for breakout series Widow’s Bay, closed out the discussion on an emotional note, explaining how she created her character Rosemary alongside showrunner Katie Dippold before turning to the rest of the women and beginning to choke up.

“I’ve been watching everyone’s shows — everyone’s so wonderful and the characters are so complicated,” she said. “It really is a beautiful thing to see after many years in the industry and seeing roles finally written, and now hearing you guys as people, it’s lovely. And thank you all.” Williams reached over to grab Dickey’s hand, and Dickey and Fanning hugged as they put their mics down. The panel was also accompanied by a THR portrait studio and plenty of tray-passed Spago faves.

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